Hey, a new Rebel commander! That guy from that thing and some comic books, let's learn about Davits Draven!
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The Card!
Rebel players when they try to figure out how he actually worked had this face |
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Why Play Him!
You really like Blue Deck Magic. He can shut down giant squadron activations your opponent was planning on activating twice in a row, he can stop a repair spam list in its tracks, and he can make it much harder for CR90 spam lists to be where they want to when they can't turn as well. He's a blue control deck in commander form, where you basically get to hinder your opponent's ability to REDO things they just did. If that appeals to you, go for it.
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Or rather, he limits what your opponent can do THE NEXT TURN. Many of the above examples are useable but only somewhat seen, and a good token passing system negates him entirely. He's really good at stopping your opponent from doing a massive squadron launch next turn..... unless they passed a token I suppose. Why would anyone have Comms Net in a list these days? Raid from Dooku prevents you from using the command, unless you have a token and a dial to do one of the associated dial or token options. But Dooku hits EVERYONE, meaning that if one ship Comms Net's something over, it's not clearing its own. Dooku prevents using Gunnery Team unless they've already passed a token previously, while Draven prevents it next turn..... unless they passed a token at some point. They're still going to be able to resolve the command at least once before Draven can do his thing, your mileage may vary as to what's important to you.
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The issue of Draven is that you have no way of either taking advantage of the Raid (TF-1726) or a way of keeping the pressure up when needed (Dooku). Sure, you can raid them AFTER they do a command, but your ship getting nav raided turn 2 doesnt stop them from discarding a token they took turn 1. Oh, that turn 4 POST engineering raid sure does cause issues, but they either get a token passed or they had already planned it from jump. If your large base needed 2 turns of engineering to stay alive, it was already in a very bad spot and all Draven did was slightly give them a push towards losing.
The issue with Draven is that he doesn't really lend himself towards anything specific. "Agate doesn't really either!" No, she makes ONE ship in your fleet extra tanky and is cheap, allowing you to get better benefit/use on that ship for longer as the game goes on. That's a specific something, but it is something. Draven..... doesn't. The power of his ability is dependent on both what your opponent brought and your ability to guess/prevent that from happening again.
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The standard Prodigal Sorceror CR90 is always worth including, but it doesn't do anything specific for him over any other non-Cracken commander. I've seen a Liberty-title Liberty build or 2 floating around; as combining him with Fenn Rau and the Liberty title can mean 4 squads from one token, or even 6 if you can spare the one dial (don't make it a habit). Considering your opponent won't be commanding squads in bulk form the next turn, it allows you as a Rebel commander to get a good reaction strike with your squads. Making a true Liberty battlecarrier in the Imperial fashion is fun but I honestly don't know if it's a great build or just really fun now that it finally works, kinda.
In the realm of no-specific synergy, the standard Rebel good stuff of MC30s, GR75s, and CR90s have been dominating Rebel list building for a while, no reason for them to change now.
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Fleet Building!
Since he's Raiding your opponent's dials, he's a good partner with Raid mechanics (Rex, Fenn Rau, maybe even Jyn if you can figure out a trick for her) and Slicer Tools inclusions to mess with next turn as well. Your shutting down of their squadrons means he's pretty good with an MFC hitting their squads with an alpha strike.
His commander ability, though, stops your opponent from doing what they want to do next turn; it does not buff your fleet/dials/commands/etc. The fleet you bring is entirely going to be based on what it does normally and how you can then use that to win when your opponent can't do what they want, if they haven't planned for that. Hence: blue deck magic. Good luck, and stop counterspelling my Giant Growths and Overruns, dangit.
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I know it's weird, but I don't think this is correct: "Nav token and token is just changing speed by 2, no clicks, unless you have nav team, then it's 1 and a click if desired." per this ruling: https://forums.atomicmassgames.com/topic/10928-draven-vs-nav-team/
ReplyDeleteIn that circumstance, I think token+token with Nav Team gives you some combination of 2 clicks / 2 speed changes. By the logic of that answer (that the upgrade card changes the default effect of the token), I also think that Ravager would let an SSD resolve token + token as add 2 dice, but there's no official confirmation of that.
Following up, my reasoning was that he said the Liberty spending a dial as a dial doesn't let you get an extra squad token, so I don't even see consistent rulings. I don't blame you (and am not critical of you asking!); its just frustrating watching AMG give.... no answers. Sorry if my first comment sounded mean, tone wise
DeleteShrug? They won't answer my question that I asked a month ago and I'm going off the best understanding I have, but I can see your point. Worth a question submission to the FAQ for sure (you do it, haha!)
ReplyDeleteI count Draven as the third character to transition from Officer to Commander, as you forgot about Leia despite referencing her in the article. ;)
ReplyDeleteThis was a good read. What do you think are going to be the most likely dials you end up setting, and do you anticipate him using his abilities earlier or later in a game?
Squads if they have a mess of em, engineering or nav if they dont. Engineering combined with an engineering raid seems like a very solid way of ensuring your damage sticks and you can finish off someone, while nav prevents a GOOD running away plan
DeleteIt's so sad that draven got gutted by the update... He really is a drastically inferior dooku now, and without any offensive synergy on raid he doesn't even really mesh with the rebels existing raid tech.
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