tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post59462363457144368..comments2024-03-28T23:24:17.789-05:00Comments on Cannot Get Your Ship Out: the speed zero maneuver: Nebulon Bs! Jousting for Fun and ProfitEric Taylorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10721846237539911453noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-41300927509879795862020-07-12T19:46:48.452-05:002020-07-12T19:46:48.452-05:00LFC Vanguard seems ok, kinda like a cheaper Assaul...LFC Vanguard seems ok, kinda like a cheaper Assault Frigate that you can outfit for roughly the cost OF a naked Assault Frigate. If that's worth it, go for it? I'd add in Auxiliary Shield Teams and all here, but again, you're turning a Neb into an Assault Frigate, which.... why not just use the Assault Frigate and ECMs?<br /><br />As for the Salvation TRC/Agate idea, I'm very intrigued, but I'm also VERY cheap with my Salvation builds these days (title, done, let Garm or Leia fix it as needed). I don't hate the idea, but it's still 12 points on a chassis that is not terribly long for the world. I don't hate it, though, so if you do try it, please let me know!geek19https://www.blogger.com/profile/16235858181206883749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-82729755723999596872020-07-10T13:00:22.713-05:002020-07-10T13:00:22.713-05:00I'm sure John will be in shortly with his own ...I'm sure John will be in shortly with his own answers, but my take is:<br /><br />#1 I don't dislike the idea of running Local Fire Control on a Vanguard Neb-B but the costs associated to get there (a title and the weapon team and swapping a defense token) feel too high to me. I agree that a 2-red-die salvo is pretty sweet from a cheap-ish ship, especially with the Linked Turbolaser Tower reroll but I'm not sure I'd go for it. Especially given it takes your Vanguard defense token suite (double brace redirect or brace+redirect+evade), which is pretty good, to something a lot more fragile, which can be an issue on a ship with fragile sides as it is.<br /><br />#2 Officer Agate is an interesting idea on that build to take your guaranteed crit and use it to refresh the evade you exhausted to get said guaranteed crit. Giving up Intel Officer hurts so long as you're not ganging up on whatever Salvation is going after, so I suppose it depends on the rest of your fleet and how much pressure you expect to put on enemy defense tokens.Eric Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721846237539911453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-74515686397957240232020-07-09T23:57:07.074-05:002020-07-09T23:57:07.074-05:00I had a couple ideas I was throwing around the oth...I had a couple ideas I was throwing around the other day, and I'm curious what your thoughts are on them. <br /><br />First, running LFC on Vanguard. Obviously a two red Salvo is rocking for a small ship, especially with LTT, but with the Redirect from Vanguard, you're either paying eight points for a four-point upgrade, or ditching one of your other tokens (probably the Evade). Do you think that's a worthy trade-off, or will losing a damage-mitigating token be too much of a hazard? <br /><br />Second, running Salvation with TRC and officer Agate. Do the benefits of Intel Officer outweigh the dice control?Draconishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15776743363537547916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-71486491691452696472018-04-05T13:53:39.669-05:002018-04-05T13:53:39.669-05:00Ahhh. I missed the fact that the command dial mat...Ahhh. I missed the fact that the command dial matters in this case. Thanks for the explanation!Sempriniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03636231510959801274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-4928265972917211962018-04-05T13:51:33.459-05:002018-04-05T13:51:33.459-05:00Yavaris is concerned only about squadrons moving o...Yavaris is concerned only about squadrons moving or not during its squadron command. It's rather strong in combination with Fighter Coordination Team and I wouldn't be surprised if that's eventually errataed.Eric Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721846237539911453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-15722716959733734712018-04-05T13:46:59.469-05:002018-04-05T13:46:59.469-05:00My apologies, I'm missing something here. You...My apologies, I'm missing something here. You say:<br /><br />"...FCT lets you move that squadron that wasnt engaged with a ship or squadron into engagement.... so then it can fire TWICE because of the Yavaris ability. But this only works because FCT happens AFTER you move. Flight Commander ALSO triggers after. So you get to move things in and then shoot them twice."<br /><br />But doesn't Yavaris specifically say:<br />"Each squadron you activate can attack twice IF IT DOES NOT MOVE"<br /><br />In your example above, haven't the squadrons moved, regardless of how?<br /><br />You've gone into really great detail here, so again, my apologies for not understanding.Sempriniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03636231510959801274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-17007423098640200312017-04-21T15:57:16.106-05:002017-04-21T15:57:16.106-05:00Oh my mistake the salvation is support refit, not ...Oh my mistake the salvation is support refit, not escort. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02502284447075317323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-50415348098268073762017-04-21T13:03:35.443-05:002017-04-21T13:03:35.443-05:00Alright, thanks a lot guys. I'll make some adj...Alright, thanks a lot guys. I'll make some adjustments! :)<br />Haven't used overload pulse before, I thought it sounded like it might of worked, the CR90's rush in from the flanks and disable ships and the Nebulons could focus the disabled ships down.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02502284447075317323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-64399994066348064332017-04-21T08:25:40.215-05:002017-04-21T08:25:40.215-05:00Why not Support Refit on the Salvation, given it&#...Why not Support Refit on the Salvation, given it's going to be shooting ships most of the time? Also why Yavaris when you're going a bit lighter on squadrons overall and effectively 3 of them will be rogues?<br /><br />I'm also not a fan of Overload Pulse, especially on CR90Bs. SW7s are very good on CR90Bs and if you'd like to go for more of a "long ranged harassment" fleet I'd consider CR90As if you can find the points. Especially with Opening Salvo.<br /><br />In terms of objectives, they look okay with the exception of Fleet Ambush, which can be used against you by shorter-ranged ships that want to rush your long-ranged ships early on. I'd recommend changing it out.Eric Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721846237539911453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-54025113331698420612017-04-21T07:41:29.932-05:002017-04-21T07:41:29.932-05:00I wouldn't overload pulse, but so far seems al...I wouldn't overload pulse, but so far seems alright? Maybe sw7s? Can you get a flotilla in there to increase your fighter coverage? Maybe cut a cr90 for it and some other fighters?geek19https://www.blogger.com/profile/16235858181206883749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-47171143369130374292017-04-21T01:42:16.161-05:002017-04-21T01:42:16.161-05:006 Nebulons?! That sounds utterly insane haha :D
I...6 Nebulons?! That sounds utterly insane haha :D<br /><br />I've been thinking and so far this is the list I have put together, though it seems weak to LFC;<br /><br />Nebulon-B Support refit<br />Mon Mothma<br />Dual Turbolaser turrets<br /><br />Nebulon_B Escort refit<br />Toryn Farr<br />Yavaris<br /><br />Nebulon_B Escort refit<br />Turbolaser reroute Circuits<br />Salvation<br /><br />Cr90 Corvette B<br />Overload Pulse<br /><br />Cr90 Corvette B<br />Overload Pulse<br /><br />Hera Sundulla<br />Shara Bey<br />Tycho Celchu<br />A-wing squadron<br />A-wing squadron<br /><br />Opening salve<br />Fleet ambush<br />Dangerous TerritoryAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02502284447075317323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-17299700846991853462017-04-20T22:49:36.151-05:002017-04-20T22:49:36.151-05:00I will say that someone won a tournament a weekend...I will say that someone won a tournament a weekend or two ago with Garm and like 6 Nebulons and 4 Z95s. Dont.... dont do that to start out, haha.geek19https://www.blogger.com/profile/16235858181206883749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-69569061653480069762017-04-20T08:46:44.277-05:002017-04-20T08:46:44.277-05:00I've seen Salvation and Yavaris run well toget...I've seen Salvation and Yavaris run well together but more than that usually requires 500 points. Nebulon-Bs do much better with titles, so simply spamming generic Nebulons at the moment feels a bit unwise, but the titles also require some building around and hence the expense. Plus there's not really (at the moment) a 'go to' Nebulon-B commander - they do all right with a few different commanders but nobody seems to really make a "spam Nebulons" approach work yet.<br /><br />I think commander Leia (coming out in wave 6) will help Nebulon-Bs in particular but that remains to be seen.Eric Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721846237539911453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-13401193466630126182017-04-20T01:09:14.469-05:002017-04-20T01:09:14.469-05:00Hi. I have 3 Nebulons and I am determined to get t...Hi. I have 3 Nebulons and I am determined to get them all on the table. This article talks a lot about how to use them independently but I am interested in your thoughts and advice on how to run a list with a group of them. Is it a terrible idea?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02502284447075317323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-63083620866948848152017-02-21T16:55:11.371-06:002017-02-21T16:55:11.371-06:00It definitely is. I like spinals on mine for that...It definitely is. I like spinals on mine for that reason, but sometimes OOF 9 points.geek19https://www.blogger.com/profile/16235858181206883749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-45425725663055409792017-02-21T13:30:00.328-06:002017-02-21T13:30:00.328-06:00The rear arc of a neb is underrated.
Sure the kn...The rear arc of a neb is underrated. <br /><br />Sure the knight cannot turn back into the fight. Dont turn! Shoot from the hip, i mean rear. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04898975917952287934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-87620463012391600732017-02-21T12:36:43.041-06:002017-02-21T12:36:43.041-06:00A lot of repair commands. Redemption sends two shi...A lot of repair commands. Redemption sends two shields, Second Liberty sends 2 more shields and a wounded Liberty repairs for 7 (two cards and shield move) or uses repair token for 3 (one card). The trick is to interleave repair ships activations with opponent carriers activations.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06600765615206514997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-13384582586155631462017-02-21T10:08:18.216-06:002017-02-21T10:08:18.216-06:00Oo nice. I've debated a double LMC80 plan, but...Oo nice. I've debated a double LMC80 plan, but it scares me for when things get around the sides. How'd you deal with that? Mess of squadrons?geek19https://www.blogger.com/profile/16235858181206883749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6899368611583210454.post-37990732593837530812017-02-21T09:57:34.521-06:002017-02-21T09:57:34.521-06:00I was pretty successful using Redemption in a Doub...I was pretty successful using Redemption in a Double Liberty build with Projection Experts on Redemption and one of the Liberties, so the title does have some uses.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06600765615206514997noreply@blogger.com